Friday, January 7, 2011

Blind Vice: Those Momagers Can Be Sluts Too!

New from Ted today -

Blind Vice: Those Momagers Can Be Sluts Too!



Poor Princess Powder-Puff, the put-upon young star hasn't exactly had an easy time of it with the fame game. Drugs have been a staple for the talented girl, let's be honest. If you had her high-pressured life, you'd probably resort to chemical addiction, too, right?
Well, that combined with your mom screwing your friends, and you probably would...
Yep, right after PPP had one of her infamous moody incidents (covered widely by the media), everybody blamed the pretty chick for getting too whacked out on myriad drugs. That's partly true.
But get this: The main reason Powder-Puff went on that particular bender was because she'd just found out that one of her longtime friends and business associates had been seduced by her own damn mom!
This was a very hard blow for Ms. Powder-Puff. She had always hearted (big-time) this particular dude, who's sweet, good-looking and—most importantly—truly cares for Princess. And she had also gotten her hopes up.
See, Puff's never had much luck with the dudes. And yet she'd finally wrestled herself out of her latest bad relationship with a skeezy guy, and thought she'd take her friend/slash biz guy up on an oft-implied romantic interest. Ya know, maybe finally settle down with a good-hearted, sensible type.
But just as PPP was considering how to shyly go about it, in swoops Princess's momager! Like she's some kind of older Angelina Jolie, or something!
It was also doubling devastating to Princess, because she and the woman who birthed her always had a jealous thing going on. Ever since they both embarked on the fabulously wholesome world of child entertainment together, mom never entirely concealed how much she wanted to get in on Princess's money, sweat and fame. And Princess had always sort of brushed it aside.
Well, not after that, she didn't.
The two barely speak now. And folks have no idea why.
Uh, now they do.
And It Ain't: Mischa Barton, Selena Gomez, Lindsay Lohan
 
See the label below for our post on the previous Princess Powder-Puff BV including a full list of who has been eliminated.

Top suspect: ? (was Britney Spears until 1/18/11 - see comments)

133 comments:

blurry vice said...

So was this with Jason Trawick or someone else?

Lola said...

Demi Lovato

Rachel said...

I was thinking that "one of her infamous moody incidents (covered widely by the media)" was probably either Britney's head-shaving or when she attacked that car with an umbrella. Was Jason Trawick her agent back then?

jjonefiftypb said...

I'm thinking this is about Larry Rudolph. Ted has often hinted that Jason is an enabler who should be watched. Who knew Britneys mon was like that. All of the drama makes sense now.

lulu023 said...

This screams Britney and has to be the umbrella incident. That occured in mid-Feb 2007. I found this people article from June 2007 headline - "Britney Spears's Mom 'Brokenhearted' After Rift"

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20012207_20044145,00.html

Big question is who is this good-hearted, sensible friend/slash biz guy who she has had an oft-implied romantic interest??

kristin said...

this one is throwing me off completely! A lot of it says Britney to me, but then some other stuff doesnt fit....
having said that, I can not think of anyone else that this might be....

talia said...

i mailed ted and asked him how long ago this incident was. and if her mom did it with her current bf or with an interest at that time. ah yes and if the mom is a real, official manager...
but i def think it's about britney. another one would surprise me

Tara said...

We have to remember there have been 2 other PPP BVs, therefore it can't be Lovato. I immediately thought his clues pointed to Demi--Ted wants us to think it is her, forgetting about PPPs past blinds. Even the Selena AIA!

So I am confused, he is kind of ambiguous with what PPP had in mind when holding out hope for her business associate. It says she has little luck w/boys and all that but I am not sure what he is implying; I don't think Britney wants to date Rudolph. It is gross either way if it is Rudolph or Trawick, but if it is a love situation, I think Mama Spears tapped Trawick--eeeww. Maybe her camp kind of pushed them together initally, for her image and to help her get back on track. Also, it doesn't say when this happened, recently or in the beginning when he was just her agent. She definitely seems sullen around him, like they are having issues for sure.

LMS130 said...

This is totally Britney. Ted must have recently learned new information about what all went down during the head shaving/ umbrella attacking/ rehab craziness. I doubt he's been sitting on this info for that long.

I'm thinking the manager in question is Larry Rudolph. He discovered Britney along with being her manager and was considered a family friend. He and mama Spears would undoubtedly be close. Hes listed as being her manager from 1999-2004, and a brief period of time in 2007. 2007 is also when Britney severed ties with her mom and went into rehab. Could that be when this incident went down?

Kristen said...

A lot of this does sound like Britney, but the "momager" reference puts some doubt in my mind. As far as I know, Lynne has never been Britney's official manager. But I do know that she had a lot of control over Britney's early career.

I saw this VH1 special, and when Britney was first starting out, she had a serious boyfriend, some guy she went to high school with (I think the one that she lost her virginity to at 15). Her mom decided that Britney would be more marketable if she were single, so she made Britney dump the guy out of nowhere. Come to think of it, there may not have even been an official break up; she might have just cut ties with him altogether. Lynne was behind the whole virginal image, which was a lie from the get-go, seeing as Britney lost it at 15.

Honestly, I wouldn't put any of this crap past Lynne because she seems like a horrible person. The "revelation" that Britney lost her virginity at 15 came from a book Lynne wrote, but I don't think ever got published because Jamie Lynn got knocked up and Britney went crazy. Her revealing that kinda bugged me because it makes Britney look bad when Lynn was the one behind the lie in the first place. And the reason Britney was pushed to become famous was because her family was really poor growing up. Her dad had either two or three jobs, but her mother didn't want to work, and when she discovered how well Britney could sing, she thought, "Here's how we can make money." You know, instead of getting a job herself.

With the exception of the virginity thing, all of this is in that VH1 special.

And this: "Yep, right after PPP had one of her infamous moody incidents (covered widely by the media), everybody blamed the pretty chick for getting too whacked out on myriad drugs. That's partly true." Depending on how you look at it, it could point toward or away from Britney. I remember reading that when she was drug tested after one of her meltdowns, she was clean. And later it was determined that she went crazy BECAUSE nothing was in her system. She was later diagnosed with some psychiatric disorder, and needed medication to keep it under control, but I guess there was no official word from a doctor that she had any problems at that time. I'm fairly certain she was drinking during this period in her life, but no drugs were found in her system, so that could be where the "partly true" thing comes in.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm a Britney fan, so I know way too much about this. LOL.

Rachel said...

I like the Larry Rudolph guesses in theory, but the blind says that the guy is "sweet, good-looking and—most importantly—truly cares for Princess." I just did a quick Google search, and I wouldn't say Larry's good-looking. But maybe Ted has unusual taste?

Megan said...

Larry Rudolph came to mind for me too, but he's not very attractive. I think the guy in question is Max Martin - he's produced a bunch of her hits and the two parted ways in 2007, the same year Britney gave her mom that letter telling her to back off. Interesting though that she asked Max to come back and produce for her a year later.

Megan said...

Whoops, posted before reading Rachel's comment, yeah, my vote is with Max.

soulin8 said...

no - it's totally Demi Lavato don't you think?

Cathy said...

soulin - please read Tara's comment:
"We have to remember there have been 2 other PPP BVs, therefore it can't be Lovato. I immediately thought his clues pointed to Demi--Ted wants us to think it is her, forgetting about PPPs past blinds. Even the Selena AIA!"

Elle said...

@Kristen re: Brit testing clean for drugs: Perhaps it was from withdrawl that she had her psychotic break! Last season on Celeb Rehab that musician Mike (Starr, I think) had a total psychotic break from withdrawl and it was several days after he'd been clean. Granted I think the poor girl prob does suffer from some form of mental illness as well....but just a thought to explain things.

PrincessTiff said...

When she was all crazy-like, wasn't she photographed giving her mom a letter basically saying to stay out of her life?

Gabby said...

@Rachel - I totally agree!! I was thinking the head shaving or umbrella incident as well. Plus with the quote "they barely speak now and folks have no idea why" - that completely makes sense because no-one has been talking about Lynn Spears, they've mainly been talking about Jamie (her father).

Kristen said...

@Elle: I know that Britney's abused drugs in the past (her mom also wrote about that in the book), so withdrawal could have participated in her breakdowns. She did hang out with Paris and Lindsay for a while, but I never got the impression that she was as heavy into that stuff as they were. I think that her biggest vice at that time was alcohol. I would say that her bipolar disorder was the biggest contributing factor.

Here's one of the many stories on Britney's bipolar disorder:

http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/30/britney-being-treated-for-her-disease/

Say what you will about TMZ, but they tend to be pretty accurate about this stuff.

hordac said...

Yes, on the Britney train for this one. I also thought about the Rudolph guy because I remember they papped skating after her breakdown and the media was speculating about a romance between them. Didn't realize he wasn't exactly good looking. My memory is pretty faulty so maybe she was skating with someone else?

Elle said...

@Kristen: Totally. I agree with ya.

Cyn said...

Did Drew Barrymore's mother ever manage her?

PrincessTiff said...

Drew's mom had to have when she was a child, at least I would assume so.

roseyf said...

The timing of this for Britney makes sense as well - the first BV was right when she was touring for Circus and in the middle of all that hubbub about "If You Seek Amy/ F-U-(-K Me". Now this BV comes out and her new single is supposed to be released next Tues.

And I'm thinking the biz associate was Sam Lufti. Her MOM was the one who filed the restraining order against him, right around the time that she had that public breakdown where cops were called to her house and she was locked in the bathroom with her kids and ended up going to the hospital. And he's a pretty shady guy with other restraining orders related to sending nude pics to a girl's family before.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580567/britney-spears-managerfriend-has-prior-restraining-orders.jhtml

Kristen said...

I don't think the guy is Sam Lufti. This sounds like someone who has worked with her through most of her career, possibly since the beginning. I think that the Max Martin guess is the best one so far. He would fit that sort of description, and from the pictures I've found, he's a very good looking guy.

Guesswho said...

Would anyone still call Britney "talented" and "pretty"?

Caz1310 said...

Oh Justin you're a naughty boy.

Dawn said...

Hey Girls, You made it to Evilbeet Gossip with this one!

Tara said...

I am not feeling Sam Lufti for this either. He is shady and gross and was said to be drugging her so he could control her. I doubt her mom would be all over that. I never thought of Martin and it makes more sense now than Trawick. I think Rudolph is more of a father figure for her. So Martin collaborated with Dr Luke for her new single too? Adds to this argument.

Now hopefully Dr Luke won't go and make it all Katy Perry/Kesha-ish. No offense to either but it is like they borrow beats like clothing and their sound can really get generic and tired.

Tara said...

Sorry, Sam Lutfi not Lufti.

behroke said...

OK, what about Hayden Panettiere? She's had her wacky moments and has a seriously stage mom momager, doesn't she? Or has she been AIA'd before?

Hi all, new poster, but I've loved lurking for a while!

kristin said...

the whole momager is what is throwing me off,... but then agian maybe that is what Ted is trying to do! Like he is using the term 'momager' loosley

it has to be brit brit, there isnt anyone else that fits...

I said...

There is NO WAY it could be Sam (psychopath) Lutfi. Not only would no woman in her right mind get with him (notice I said "right mind"), but I don't think ANYONE could describe him as "sweet, good-looking and—most importantly—truly cares for Princess"...not even his own mother.

Jenna said...

@behroke: HP is widely accepted as another BV, Dommy-Do-Rightly

Tara said...

Kristin, I agree that the term is used loosely, but she used to have complete control in the early days over B's career (between MMC and the teen albums). Ted likes to pull from the past at times so we don't immediately know who he is talking about. The only real momager of a female performer I can think of is Dina, though I am sure there are more.

joey.lately said...

Larry Rudolph is married and has a child. Lynne Spears has not been her manager at any point- it has always been Larry and at one point Johnny Wright as well as Adam Leber.
This does not seem like Britney to me. Nothing adds up. And in the other BV for PPP it says she was doing drugs on tour. Britney, her dancers, and her opening act were regularly drug tested, and Britney is highly monitored by people- she is still under a conservatorship.
@Tara- Lynne may have had control during MMC but they signed with Larry when Brit was 13. He and Johnny Wright managed her since before Baby One More Time.
I just dont think this is Britney, not enough adds up.

Jamee said...

BRITNEY.

I completely agree with Kristin--I think Ted uses the term Momager loosely. No, it's not official, but Lynn was always very crucial and involved in Britney's career and decisions over the years. Maybe not anymore after this incident, but in years past she was a total stage mom. And this would make sense for being the reason why her father became her conservator instead of her mother. Her father is a recovering alcoholic, so unless something went horribly wrong with Lynn, you'd think she would be the conservator. Not that recovering alcoholics can't be conservators, but it's not like he doesn't have his own stuff to worry about.

This is NOT Sam Lutfi. Hell no. He's a complete skeeze and was nothing but trouble for Britney. I don't know about good looking (I don't think he's BAD looking), but Rudolph has been the closest thing to a father to her and who supposedly truly cared about her. After she had the kids and separated from K Fed, he was the one who really brought her back to life and started her comeback. Then she went bonkers so who knows. Either way, he fits that description for being someone they always trusted. Lutfi is probably the guy "she finally wrestled herself out of her latest bad relationship with." Him, or that paparazzi douche with the soul patch she dated for like 8 seconds.

If you read the blind again, it doesn't seem like the guy who slept with her mother is someone she's with now. It says "Ya know, maybe finally settle down with a good-hearted, sensible type. But just as PPP was considering how to shyly go about it, in swoops Princess's momager!" It seems as though she was GOING to try to make something happen with him but didn't because then this happened and she was devastated about it. I may be way off but that was my initial interpretation.

And yes, I would still consider Britney pretty and talented. No, she's never been the best singer in the world, but the girl is a star. Period. She's a fantastic entertainer whether you like it or not. Have you ever read what Lainey says about Britney? How she was a genius at being a performer and being feasted on, which is something Miley and Bieber will never be able to do quite like her.

I'm a little confused as to why people think this doesn't fit her. What parts? Elaborate. . .

Jamee said...
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Alejandra said...

Britney! I'm liking the Max link. I briefly though about Adnan Ghalib. Forgetting the horrible soul patch, he isn't too ugly, but they dated in 2008.

I said...

@Jamee:

At first read this screams Britney, but when you think about it...things don't really fit. As joey.lately said, I doubt Brit isn't being regularly drug tested.

Britney apparently has a mental illness and I believe she is taking medication for it. Street drugs would be TERRIBLE to mix with such medication (I'm thinking bipolar disorder or severe depression or at the very least cyclothemia)

Now, Ted does say PPP is always drugged when she performs and that COULD ostensibly mean medicated but I believe Ted alludes to street drugs that her lowlies get for her. Meds for bipolar or depression are definitely strong (i.e. could be called "hard stuff") but you need a script for them and no way her lowlies could get it for her.

Unless Ted means all the PPP vices to be before Brit's conservatorship, then that's another story...but once Brit's on the conservatorship...I say no way is this Brit.

Also, Larry Rudolph as the guy Brit "had always hearted (big-time)" and who is "good-looking"? Really? I mean, REALLY? Totally different generation there. Also, if Larry is married with a kid, do ya'll REALLY think he would risk all that for a roll in the hay with Mama Spears? I doubt it.

Nope, my guess is for DEMI LOVATO as PPP. Her or Avril Lavigne (but who cares about Avril any more?)

1) Demi - punching that girl and going to rehab...widely media documented. Known to be big-time coke user. "Princess Powder Puff" alludes to Disney Princess. Demi's mom is most certainly a momager as she's pushed Demi's little overweight sister into acting which should be horrible for her considering her weight (lots of potential for being made fun of in the public eye)

2. Avril - spitting incident...divorce from husband..."punk princess"...but have never heard of her mom as momager. Besides, kinda irrelevent.

Demi FTW!!

I said...

Oh, also to add some fuel to the Demi guess...Demi's mom used to be a cheerleader or a pageant girl or something. Demi's mom apparently ditched Demi's dad and traded up. I can so see that type of woman being bitter over her glory days having passed and having a jealousy/envy thing going on with Demi and doing what PPP's mom did. Women who are known primarily for their looks never seem to age well...inside or out. Just my three pennies!!

Tara said...

PREACH JAMEE!! Love everything you said, and completely agree and that is what I was trying to say about Lynne having career control even if she wasn't a real mgr like Johnny Wright or Larry Rudolph. My issue is, debate it all you want, but at least have an alternative suggestion if you think the pieces don't match up. This is not meant to be offensive, y'all deserve to have your opinion, but I have questions about your stance too.

Now, to make some pieces match up, Britney has had a very public meltdown or three. Her mother has been VERY influential in her career and has had control and input before her downward spiral, and we know she has benefited from it financially, even if she is not paid (ie Serenity compound in Lou just for one) or given the title of manager. Is known to have had horrible taste in men since Justin. Like none are even acceptable. Trawick is probably the closest she has come to normal in a long freaking time. Her issues with her mother are not a secret and her relationship with her was extremely troubled during her marriage to Federline (Lynne hated him). Lynne played a huge part in her forced annulment from Jason A and from that point on, I think Britney has held a huge grudge and the light about her mother's true intentions really switched on. Lynne had a problem with anything that hurt B's public image (which may damage her cash flow), regardless of whether her personal choice was making her happy. Also, someone of her fame level, do you really think she could not fake a drug test, if they really were even giving them to her? C'mon. Fake pee, someone doing it for her, paying off the doctor or drug tester--it's what dirty Hollywood is all about. Drug tests are messed with for famous athletes, olympians, government officials, why not Britney? It is deluded to think that everything Star feeds us is fact, because who is the source? What if it was Lynne herself? Do we REALLY know she was ACTUALLY tested? No. That is just what was leaked and reported.

Now, this Lovato thing is really irritating--she is the red herring for this one. Ted is making it sound like her because of what happened late last year, but no one was aware of her major probs prior to her bitch slapping the dancer and checking herself into Betty Ford or whatever. What was Lovato doing in 2009 (first blind) that would fit for her as PPP? Can anyone rooting for Lovato as PPP tell me who her bad choices in men are? Besides Joe Jonas, who she only confirmed she was dating in early 2010--way after PPP's first BV? Or would Joe be the one who humped Demi's mom? I think not, considering he might be gay and is certainly not Mrs. Robinson material. And is Ted calling JJ skeezy? He might be immature, gay, an ass***e, or a self-righteous SOB, but I doubt he would be calling a Jonas brother skeezy. Kevin Federline or Adnan Ghalib fit that description to a T!! What comeback was Demi working on in 2009, when the first PPP blind came out? The horribly successful Camp Rock? Her new TV show Sonny w/a chance that came out in 2009 or the sickeningly sweet Princess Protection Program with her bestie, Darla Jones? I would hardly call that a comeback, it is the skyrocketing of her career. Someone with very public trials and tribulations as Ted has alluded to would not be cast as a Disney Darling with her own show.

Phew!

I said...

Actually Tara, Lovato has had a lot of skeezy guys. There was that one dude who she had sex with (sans condom) in public at a party after doing a lot of coke (at same party) in public. He later died in a tubing accident. I mean, I don't follow her but I've heard that she has had a coke problem for a long time and is quite the easy lay.

Lovato started in entertainment as a child. And, yes, Demi Lovato is sadly known (in the industry) to have had a lot of trials and tribulations.

Tara, I'm sorry if you are unhappy with my guess, but I respectfully disagree with you.

I do believe it is Britney who is the red herring for this and the blind is about Demi Lovato. The fact that she had a show called "Princess Protection Program" just cinches her as Princess Powder-Pufff for me.

Peace.

I said...

Princess Protection Program = PPP

I said...

Someone needs to ask Ted if PPP has kids. I would do it but for some reason my web browser won't allow me to!

Tara said...

I do respectfully disagree wholeheartedly. I think you are falling into Ted's trap based on Demi's recent press. Way too obvs but a good connection on your part w/PPP thing. Still does not explain Ted talking about a comeback in '09. And I am not saying she didnt have a hard life, I am saying that prior to her recent situation, her dirty laundry had not been aired much. She had no moody outburst or meltdown that was covered by mainstream media that I can recall, and she certainly was not struggling to regain popularity at this time, she was starting to peak. Guess we agree to disagree and see what transpires in BBs to come? Let's see what we can come up w/and go from there...

Cathy said...

To I-
Based on just the latest BV, Demi Lovato is a very good guess. But this isn't the first we've heard of Princesss Powder Puff. When Ted wrote about her in 2009, he mentioned that she's trying to make a comeback. Maybe you know more a about Demi's career than I do, but I just don't see how that fits for her.

Rachel said...

Today Ted said that PPP was born before the fall of the Berlin Wall. The wall came down in 1989, and Demi Lovato was born in 1992. I think we have a winner with Britney.

Tara said...

Yay! That was my question to try to settle the Demi/Britney debate, so glad he answered! I'm shocked he bit on that one.

Cathy said...

Tara-
Clever signature on that one... I'm guessing Bie pays homage to this site?

blurry vice said...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b220277_poll_where_real_ms_britney_spears.html

I said...

Well, that makes me sad. After all that she publicly went through, she still has her family completely using her and competing with her? That is a tragic comment on human nature right there. I was really hoping it wasn't Britney Spears.

Tara said...

Word, Cathy! Hope no one minds. When we are debating between two suspects heavily, I like to use that one as a shoutout to all my peeps here:) Plus, when I have more than one question for BVs, I usually email from my home and work email (one each) and use a nickname for one, so I don't annoy them too bad. It seems to work for me to get through to him pretty regularly.

hordac said...

Yay Tara!! BV solved, I too can`t believe he answered you!

blurry vice said...

"Dear Ted:
How messed up is Princess Powder-Puff's mother?! Who can blame PPP for having such a rough patch in

her life when the woman who birthed her is such a bottom-feeder? For those of us who will always have

a soft spot for dear Princess, regardless of her missteps, can you give a little tidbit? We can keep

it general: was she born before or after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
—Bie

Dear Nice Try:
Where would the fun in that be? That would eliminate some key suspects. I will say this: Princess P is still relevant. Does that help? Ok, I changed my mind: before."

Jamee said...
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Jamee said...

Ah, I just got back here for the first time since I posted my comment before. Sort of bummed that the whole Demi/Britney debate is already resolved! But thanks for the support before, Tara! Totally agreed with everything you said, too. Besides the fact that the previous PPP blind and its timing does not make Demi in the running.

To "I"/joey.lately--I just want to make this observation to I's comment regarding prescription drugs, which I'll do for further reference. Your comment was "...I believe Ted alludes to street drugs that her lowlies get for her. Meds for bipolar or depression are definitely strong (i.e. could be called "hard stuff") but you need a script for them and no way her lowlies could get it for her." And then joey.lately said her and her dancers were drug tested. I think Ted absolutely means prescription meds here. And drug testing positive for meds she is legally obtaining would not be an issue that goes public because she isn't breaking any laws, in general or pertaining to her conservatorship. I think she's been tested for illegal substances, absolutely, and passed with flying colors. Prescripts need not apply.

And as far as obtaining prescriptions, do you realize how easy it is to get prescription medications? I saw this documentary not that long ago after Heath Ledger/Brittany Murphy's prescription drug overdoses, two incidents that really blew the lid off of that topic. It is SO easy for people, especially celebs, to get them. Period. Them or their people easily pay off a doctor, or a doctor simply gets star struck, just like everyone else, and doesn't want to say no. Both celebs, along with many others, go to multiple doctors and easily get them to write prescriptions for them. A lot easier than law-abiding citizens out of that whole Hollywood world may think. Hell, look at Michael friggin Jackson.

In conclusion, I think the only reason my Britney is doing well right now is that she's toe up to the flo' up on anti-psychotics/depressants, etc. And you best believe her or her peeps or her peeps' peeps can get them.



Yeah, I'm out.

I said...

@Jamee & Tara: Y'all may be right. I was talking from my own personal experience. Back when I was super stressed I couldn't get a script for Ativan to save my life. Docs in Toronto (Canada) just are not generous with the medication. One doc FINALLY wrote me a script for 10 Ativan(?!!) but only after I begged her. And she checked my chart as far back as she could go to see my "drug history" and to make sure I wasn't a "drug-seeker" (yes, she used that term!!). Two doctor guys I briefly dated wouldn't even write me a script when I asked oh-so-nicely. Maybe Canadian medicine is different or maybe I'm just not famous enough! Or both? :)

Tara said...

Yes, I think the docs are looser with their scrip writing here. Don't you have universal healthcare or something (sorry, not terribly up to speed on international politics and such)? Maybe that makes a difference.

Caz1310 said...

Congrats Tara - am catching up on posts :) Time moves so fast it's easy to forget how truly huge Britney was in terms of fabulousness and career success before her very public breakdown. A lot of other celebs have short staying power (we won't be seeing Bieber or Demi in 5 years time) but a lot of fans still have affection for her and hope she recovers.

Tara said...

Thanks Caz, wish he would always do that for us! True Dat. No one had touched her famewise, but now we have Gaga for that. I'd turn to another realm of the music or dancing business if I were her, the time has come for her to move to the next phase--then we can still remember her as she was. Plus, it gets kind of desperate when you are pushing 40, like J-Lo, and you are singing about shoes and crap, wearing all that stuff meant for a 20 year old. It's not like she couldn't come back, but I don't hold out much hope (as a Britney fan since Hit Me Baby, One More Time).

I said...

I think Britney should write more introspetive lyrics. She's been through a lot and she should write songs about it. Kind of like Pink writes about outsiders. I love Pink. Ran into her once (literally) at the Whole Foods in Toronto (Yorkville). She was with a short burly guy (bodyguard?). She stepped aside as I almost walked right into her b/c (sadly) I was reading a magazine and wasn't watching where I was going. Really down-to-earth girl, that Pink. Love her!

Clancy said...

Britney write introspective lyrics? I can't see her getting past 'my heart's broken, I'm so blue' depth. Does she even write her own music?
Not really a fan - and I really don't like her new song, not least because it uses the ye olde 'would you hold it against me?' phrase. Please. Even at 13 all that joke got was a snigger and a roll of the eyes.
I can see her appeal though; no one else moves like Britney and has such sex appeal on stage, and her pop music is great, but ballads and introspective lyrics, sorry I, but I don't see her having much cred in that department.

On another note, I'm glad this BV is all but solved. Nice to have closure.

Clancy said...

Britney write introspective lyrics? I can't see her getting past 'my heart's broken, I'm so blue' depth. Does she even write her own music?
Not really a fan - and I really don't like her new song, not least because it uses the ye olde 'would you hold it against me?' phrase. Please. Even at 13 all that joke got was a snigger and a roll of the eyes.
I can see her appeal though; no one else moves like Britney and has such sex appeal on stage, and her pop music is great, but ballads and introspective lyrics, sorry I, but I don't see her having much cred in that department.

On another note, I'm glad this BV is all but solved. Nice to have closure.

Clancy said...

Woops, sorry for the double post.

Gretchen said...

so.. ted just said in today's bitch back that PPP has NOT been a blind vice previously.

this eliminates britney?

Jennifer said...

that was my question too, this one may have to b completely rethought

Jenna said...

Yes that definitely eliminates Britney. Start over!

I said...

Oh Good! La pauvre petite Britney. I had hoped she was over her bad times. Glad to see it isn't her :)

Okay, this is out of left field, but...Whitney Houston?

Or, (better guess) Kerry Katona?

Tracey said...
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Tracey said...

I believe Jessica Simpson's name has been thrown around previously. She is my top guess, although I would be absolutely shocked by the actions of both Jessica and Tina. A lot of the clues seem to say Jessica though.
"Sizeable tabloid target" = all of her weight issues. She also has tried a few comebacks.

Another guess of mine is Brandy. Her Mom is her Manager and my friend is telling me they are not close anymore (haven't confirmed that). She was also a child star and had that car accident in 2006. In 2009 she introduced her new alter ego (Bran Nu) and came back with DWTS, etc..

Kristen said...

I'm still not convinced it isn't Britney. I'm a fan and I want the best for her, but she's been a Blind Vice since Ivana Belch. And I don't know of any other that fits her like this one does. I think that Ted may have forgotten about Ivana Belch because it was so long ago, hardly scandalous, and revealed almost immediately afterward. Or he intentionally lied because there have been very few official reveals.

Michelle said...

Wondering about the AIAs on this one....which I usually ignore :)

All of the AIAs have some acting credits. Is there someone in that crowd we are missing? Maybe more of an actor than a singer? "Moody incident" points straight to Britney, of course. I can't imagine Ted not remembering her having a BV. This one has me completely thrown.

MH

jjonefiftypb said...

Yes the not been a blind vice before comment threw me and sometimes I wonder if Ted forgets or if it really isn't Brittney Spears... IDK but that response totally puts Brittney into question.

Sara said...

Well, on the site Ted said that PPP was born before the Berlin Wall came down, and this eliminates Demi Lovato. He also said that PPP has not had a blind vice before. This eliminates Britney Spears. He also said she is still relevant. I'm not sure on this one.

kristin said...

The Berlin wall came down in 1989, I am really liking the Brandy guess that was thrown out there! It would make sense given her trying to make a comeback, and she had her own show was she was a teenager
I am going to do a little more digging and see what else I can come up with....

Caz1310 said...

On one of the previous PPP posts on this site there is a comment from the Sisters 9/3/09 indicating that Brit was Ivana Belch but it was revealed. Hoping that Ted is still playing by his rules, doesn't this mean that she is still under consideration for PPP?

kristin said...

I think that Ted's comment was indicating PPP has never had a blind vice before - effectively notting Britney for PPP because she was Ivana Belch

blurry vice said...

looks like its not brit

"Dear Ted:
Surely I'm not the only one wondering about the status of Princess Powder-Puff's addictions to drugs and alcohol these days. Has she cleaned her act up or not? If not, how do her handlers deal with the situation? Do they turn a blind eye, actively enable or do they work to get her sobered up? Also, does PPP still have a relationship (business or otherwise) with the man her mom seduced away from her?
—Bex

Dear Snort or Swallow:
Honestly, I don't think she's able to do too much drugging or drinking these days. If anything, I'd be nervous about her prescription-pill intake. Hopefully, her handlers are keeping an eye on that."

"Dear Ted:
Just started reading this column and I'm hooked! Is Princess Powder-Puff currently in a relationship and has she been a B.V. before?
—Tracey B California

Dear Love Lost:
Yes and no."


"Dear Ted:
Since your Blind Vice Bitch-Back dissolved into another Robert Pattinson-Kristen Stewart "discussion," would you mind letting me know what Matthew Morrison's B.V. entails? Also, is your obvious concern for Princess Powder-Puff because she is or may be pregnant?
—Jenna


Dear Picky:
Morrison's keeping it low-key for now, which is why Robsten rules the blog day in and day out. Trust, if we had some dish on that hottie tottie—it would be all over (as it has been in the past). Oh, and we will always be first string on Princess Powder Puff's team. Doubt she's preggers, though. She's not one to jump on that bandwagon, certainly because it would mean she'd have to be really chemical-free, not just pretend."

blurry vice said...

I'm irritated again. Ted has said that he gave someone who was revealed as a BV a new nickname. If it's not Britney then who is it?

blurry vice said...

He said that on 9/2/09.

blurry vice said...

Sigh, I don't know. Can't be Britney, Christina, or anyone born after the fall of the berlin wall. Maybe Fergie? But this has to me someone with a mom-ager.

Kristen said...

I still think that Ted messed up his rules, intentionally or not, and that this is Britney. But to throw out another guess into the mix, what about LeAnn Rimes? She had the hits and good-girl fame once upon a time. When she first hit it big, she was 14, so there's the "child entertainment" part. But I have trouble making any of the other clues fit her.

Erica said...

Hmmm..maybe he is just trying to throw us...perhaps he is only answering one part of the question. Maybe the "yes and no" is about her relatonship with Jason T..I guess in some ways it is a relationship, but also a business arrangement..I know I am grasping straws here but just can't see who else this could fit.

Tara said...

Erica I was thinking the same thing, like he was addressing part of the question but it was unclear which. He is so mysterious like that. There is no way to know for sure that he was saying PPP was not a previous BV. I believe it is time for a round of clarification questions for Ted! Off we go.....

Cecilia00 said...

In todays Bitch-Back, it was asked if this was Christina Aguilera, and ted said close, but no. The next item he put up was "Is Christina the next Britney?"

I think he's trying to tell us something and clear up some confusion.

Tracey said...

What about Julianne Hough?
Her parents are divorced, not sure if her mom is her manager, but she is the head of her fan club. She is also very attractive.

The thing that got me thinking that was when he said not Christina but close and recently in celeb news was the fight between Christina and Julianne.

Based on his clues it seems like PPP has not been a BV before, is not married, but in a relationship, child entertainer. And someone who performs.
The "moody incident" is throwing me off though....he makes it sound like it's well known.

Caz1310 said...

Still think this is Brit. As has been variously said by other bloggers, Ted's either fibbing to throw us off - how useless is a BV column if the BV's are easily identified? There's be few hits/discussion - or he's got cold feet due to Brit's tendency to sue (whichever mag did an article on her being hit by her boyfriend, the bodyguard who made allegations about her being a bad mum etc) and he's being deliberately mischevious. The last thing E would want is to be succesfully sued. There is really no-one else who fits all these clues as well as Brit. If anyone doubts Ted's ability to mislead...you can see the 10-volume encyclopedia of threads on (dare I say it) Nevis on this site. How many times has he gone back n forth and been extremely evasive with that one? Also, he very rarely reveals.

roseyf said...

I also still think this is Britney. Hasn't Ted said before that he's sometimes misleading if people are too close on a guess? I took the "yes and no" as a way to be misleading without lying - implying that it's in respective order, but not necessarily. Or saying "yes and no" to mean she was a BV but got revealed so wasn't anymore. There are a lot of ways to interpret that without ruling out Miss Spears.

alana said...

Okay I am going out on a limb here, and I apologize in advance if this guess has been put out there already eliminated :)

The Judds? Winona? I don't know, I felt this was an older woman and thought it was Janet Jackson from the first blind, but then the momager thing threw me off with this second one.

So what do you guys think?

Michelle said...

This one is making me crazy! I still really wonder if this is an actress and not a singer. Ted is pretty vague in the blinds as to what type of performance is going on and what type "hits" (hit movies?? hit songs??) The AIAs are all over the map. I keep wondering about Drew Barrymore for this? Does she have a BV? She's had a pretty public feud with her mother. I remember some story about her mom trying to sell her baby clothes on eBay and I know she posed in Playboy. The "Princess" in the name would fit with Drew's royal lineage as a Barrymore...what do you guys think? Is this a crazy guess? I just wonder if Ted is using an older story sort of like with the Butter Pussy blind. Also, Drew had a lot of scandal in her childhood with rehab...and although you don't hear much about it these days, rumor has it that she is not clean. AGH! Even as I type this there are glaring things she doesn't fit with, ie; not really in pursuit of a comeback as her career has been pretty steady. Still, I'm wondering if it could be someone more LIKE this....

MH

Hazel said...

my guess, Pink.

Catherine said...

jessica simpson

jess said...

What about Hillary Duff?

Caz1310 said...

@The Spie, where are you these days? Are you still participating, or just lurking :) Am missing your insight.

blurry vice said...

"Dear Ted:
Christina Aguilera's recent antics at the Globes and Jeremy Renner's house got me thinking, could she possibly be Princess Powder-Puff?
—Elizabeth

Dear Great Guess:
Not a bad guess at all, babe! But wrong Vice for Christina. Rather close, actually."

blurry vice said...

I also am wondering where Spie is. There is a Jason Segel timeline we need to do. ;)

blurry vice said...

By the way Christina was a AIA for the original PPP BV. Don't these people read our blog?! ;)

I also still think this might be Britney. Until we know 100% that Ted "forgot" something again then we don't know for sure that he gave the right answer.

JoElla said...

Alana that is a good guess. It is safe to say the Judd girls have some 'issues'.

But I still think this is Britney.

The clues, as well as gut instint, and looking back when she first started 'recovering', when Mama Spears would come around, she would have some issues and act out.

talia said...

i just found this (from 08/07):
"Britney Spears shocked us one more time. This time 26-year-old Britney Spears said during a TV show that her 52-years-old mother Lynne Spears slept with her 29-year-old ex-husband Kevin Federline."
has anyone here heard of this tv show interview?...

btw:
i came across this older blind:
http://www.blinditemsexposed.com/2009/10/blind-vice-big-butt-wedding-woes.html

maybe we can have this one again and see if it is about ryan and scarlett?!?

greetings

Tara said...

I am with you Blurry, Caz, and Brit-for-PPPers. I think he was feeling uncomfortable or trying to be vague to back off since he had already given away a lot with Berlin Wall question. @Michelle, you also bring up a good point that this is likely not a current situation like the BP old cutting story, more like probably what spawned the umbrella/head-shaving incident or drugged at VMAs incident, or 5150 incident from the dark years (was it like '06-08??).

talia said...

just some more opinion to my post above:
i don't think that mommy really slept with k-fed, but britney may either have feared it all the time that her mother (maybe she flirted with all her guys over the years) is capable of doing that and when it really happened finally lost it. or after it had happened she began to see the betrayal everywhere...
hope that made sense ;)

Tara said...

Talia, is that so? Momma is messed up. I think this BV refers to the guy as a business associate and longtime friend, I dont think that really fits for Federline. But if they did have a weird relationship or B feared something happening--what causes that? Past experiences with that kind of sick flirtation or worse. And then when Lynne did go there with someone B liked, she flew off the handle.

Caz1310 said...

Wouldn't it be funny (in a weird grossed out way) if the fella in question was Timberlake? Him and Lynne?? That's not "bringin' sexy back"!

Tara said...

That is sooooo wrong! I think I would have to Cry a River if Justin showed Lynne His Love. But you know what they say, What Goes Around Comes Around!

I am bored, obviously.

DuskyJewel said...

@Tara...you're not bored, just LoveStoned :-P

Tara said...

Baaaaaaahaaaa! Bazinga--love it.

Caz1310 said...

Bet Justin is happy he said "Bye Bye Bye" to Lynne and hello "Senorita" to Cam and then Jessica :)

Cathy said...

Okay, I have an idea, but it might be a little too out there, even for Ted. Check it out and let me know if I've gone off the deep end on this one:

In the BB where he seemed to "not" Brit, he addressed his answer to "LOVE LOST." This seemed kind of random to me and I realized that if you re-arrange the letters, it could be "SOLVE TO L" which would indicate that we should be reading his responses from right to left, rather than from left to right. So that would make his answers "no and yes" rather than "yes and no."

What do you guys think? Of course, then again, if that is the case, it would mean that PPP isn't currently in a relationship, which also doesn't sound like Brit....

I said...

@Cathy: That actually seems a little far-fetched to me (though very creative!)

But here's something weird. I emailed Ted twice asking about Natalie Portman. For some reason her speech about her fiance really wanting to sleep with her at the GGs bothered me. Probably b/c he was in a committed relationship when she hooked up with him and I thought joking about it at the GGs was in really poor taste and insensitive.

Anywhoo, I emailed Ted about it twice. The first email about Nat I also asked Ted to eliminate Britney Spears as PPP. The second email about Nat pretty much echoed the first but I left out the question about eliminating Britney Spears as PPP. He answered the second email and not the first.

Don't know if that means anything though. Maybe he just felt sorry for me being so persistent?

Tara said...

Cathy, I like what you did there! I have always wondered if he had like a key of sorts to his secret codes! I don't know if that is coincidence or fact but I am certainly not giving up on Brit for PPP yet!

I, I really liked your BB comment this morning. I did not know about his history, but that really sickens me. Hasn't she done that before? I recall the rumors with Sean Penn, and didn't she take one of her other BFs when they were seeing someone else (like Devendra or Gael GB)?

blurry vice said...

"Dear Ted:
Just wanted to test my sleuth skills and see how on point I am. Princess Powderpuff, Lucretia Johnson, Lorin Snifflepuss—is that the correct order from

youngest to oldest of some of my favorite Vicey stars?
—Dallas

Dear Ageless When Vicey:
Get to reworking that list, hon!"

I said...

@Tara: Yes, I recall the Sean Penn rumors as well (which I believe) but didn't know about Devendra or Gael.

I also recall Nat commenting that she is quite ruthless when it comes to her career (during a press junket for The Other Boleyn Girl and Scarlett just gushing over Nat saying she was just "very ambitious".

It's this ruthlessness about Natalie that really makes me dislike her. And I don't think it's just about her career. She strikes me as not only the kind of woman who will do ANYTHING to get what she wants but doesn't even seem to have a conscience about it. Probably b/c she doesn't see anything wrong with it.

Ted says she is "playing down" the homewrecker role - if she is...that's ONLY to salvage her image. But joking about how the KFed of ballet really wanted to sleep with her at the GGs while he was in a live-in committed relationship with a GF who apparently thought she was going to marry this guy is just....I don't know. I can't understand that.

BTW I truly think PPP is Britney now. I think this is an older blind about PPP b/c Ted mentioned in one BB that PPP's drug use is mostly of the prescription variety these days as her handlers make sure of that. (Don't remember which BB it was but I do remember reading it.)

I said...

P.S. need to mention that this character flaw of Nat's really bothers me as I just love her as an actress. Every film I have seen her in...she doesn't disappoint.

Caz1310 said...

@I, what about her woeful wooden acting in the new Star Wars trilogy?? She showed so much promise in Leon: The Professional at such a young age. Maybe she's finally found her form in Black Swan (haven't seen it yet).

I said...

@Caz: Sorry, didn't see her in Star Wars so can't comment. But everything else...especially Nat's take on those quirky roles - have been great. I'm going to see Black Swan next week. And then Barney's Version b/c I love Mordecai!

Aside: Is it just me or does it seem that to get anywhere in this world it's necessary to be ruthless and cunning. Eyes on the prize and to heck with "casualties".

Cathy said...

"Dear Ted:
Just wanted to test my sleuth skills and see how on point I am. Princess Powderpuff, Lucretia Johnson, Lorin Snifflepuss—is that the correct order from youngest to oldest of some of my favorite Vicey stars?
—Dallas

Dear Ageless When Vicey:
Get to reworking that list, hon!"

Since Lorin Snifflepuss is suspected to be someone from Glee, I'm gussing she'd actually be the youngest, not the oldest. I wonder if the person who wrote in meant to write "oldest to youngest" instead.

Kristen said...

Lorin Sniffle-Puss is suspected to be Matthew Morrison (he plays the teacher). The two top guesses for Lucretia Johnson are Jessica Simpson and Christina Aguilera (who are only a few months apart in age). If this person was thinking Britney for PPP, Jessica or Christina for Lucretia, and Matthew for Lorin, that's the correct order. I can't think of anyone who better fits those three BVs than Britney, Jessica, or Matthew, so I'd almost accuse Ted of lying, except that I've noticed that he never explicitly said that Dallas was wrong. Maybe he wants this person to rework the list to add more people, since they're good at it.

Cathy said...

@Kristen - you're right; I just hadn't paid too much attention to the LSP vice, since I don't watch Glee.

Duskyjewel said...

Gotta agree with y'all. Still think PPP is Britney and maybe Ted felt badly for BVing her so openly on the eve of her pretty impressive comeback...one that has been slowly happening over the past couple if years.

Lisa said...

kelly Osbourne

Dollie said...

This has got to be Britney Spears. She was on tour in June 2009 when the other BV came out. The AIA's are Disney stars and Spears is still making her big comeback.

Mommyof1 said...

Just playing devils advocate here so please just go with it for a min :) aside from Lindsey Lohan purportedly being Morgan Mayhem - her mother is her manager, she's been working on a "comeback" for awhile Now, the very fact that you could see Dina doing this, only being able to do rx drugs (hello probation) but that's what they need to watch out for - her add/adhd "addiction" she was taking meds for & again her screwed up family history, also she was born before the fall of the Berlin wall

Cathy said...

@Dollie - That's an interesting guess, but Kelly and her mom are super-close.

@Mommyof1 - I really like your thinking and if Ted said that PPP has had a previous BV, then I could totally get on board with the possibility of it being Linsday. Although I think she and Dina are still too close, even though she is starting to realize that Dina doesn't always have her best interest at heart.

I still think that this is Britney and Ted is just being tricky.

Jenna said...

Issue with the previous BV answer aside, would Ted (or anyone) say this about Britney: "Doubt she's preggers, though. She's not one to jump on that bandwagon"?? Even if she wouldn't at the time of the BB due to drug use, she could certainly be described as "one to jump on that bandwagon"--bigtime!

Liz said...

What about Ashlee Simpson?

Kelly said...

@Liz... I haven't heard any indication that Ashlee has a strained relationship with her mother. Also, I don't recall her having been a child star. Although, I believe Jessica may have been peddled as a child singer. I could be wrong on that count, though.

But I really like Ashlee for the Vicky Vamp-Void blind and the recent BB's seem to point very stongly toward her and Pete Wentz.

talia said...

just found this interesting link:

http://www.bvonmoney.com/2010/06/04/top-10-momagers-mother-managers/

did we already explore brandy for this? the others are mainly momagers for their sons... or to me not fitting (kardashians, robinson)

Jasmine said...

Just a thought... What about Micha Barton?? Im not sure if she was mentioned already or AIA'D But her mom is supposedly nuts, she has def melted down several times, tried to launch a comeback and dated some shady guys!

Also if Taylor Momson(sp) wasn't so young I would think it was maybe her?
Just throwing those out!

OhLaLizTaylor said...

I am going with Demi Lavato. But does anyone know if Miley Cyrus ever had a crush on Brett Michaels? That would really shock me...but Tish, her mom and Billy Ray did split, as rumored because of their affair.

blurry vice said...

"
Dear Ted:
My cat, Spiffy, and I want to know more about Princess Powder-Puff as we haven't heard about her in a while. Is she currently in a relationship or still

alone? Aside from her pathetic mother, does PPP have a family of her own?
—Lynne

Dear Princess Happy At Last:
Everything's pretty cool with Princess these days, both in love and with the family. Let's hope it lasts."

- sounds like Brit

Ummm said...

Yesterday someone asked Ted about Demi Lovato saying something about blind items on her twitter. He said that she wasn't talking about his blind for her but the ones on. Blindgossip. So does that mean she has a moniker? I wonder if she replaced Britney for this moniker...

blurry vice said...

"Dear Ted:
I know you outed Britney Spears for a B.V. a few years ago. Has she earned herself another moniker? Or has she truly moved on from her past?
—CinemaKatie

Dear Vice Me Baby One More Time:
She's moved on in some ways (a lot of ways, actually), but even with all that baggage she's burned, Brit-Brit still carries some designer bags of naughty
secrets. All that metaphor is to say, she's a Hall of Famer for a reason."

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