Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Lainey- Notes on a love triangle

New Lainey riddle  -

Notes on a love triangle

She started out as a song girl, then acted, keeps trying to do both. At the beginning it was promising but mostly, over the last few years, it’s been a series of disappointments. Personally though, she seemed to have it together. A steady relationship, a solid commitment, no drama…
Or maybe it’s because we weren’t paying attention.
She and her playing partner have been having problems for a while. They’ve been trying hard to work it out. But that might not turn out so well if she finds out that he hooked up with a much more successful song girl, someone with a similar early sound and origin, though that’s evolving now. Despite her many changes, contrived or organic, this was probably not the intended image.

Top suspects: Mandy Moore, Ryan Adams, Taylor Swift

60 comments:

duffgrl said...

I'm thinking Mandy Moore for this…but not sure who Ryan Adams cheated with. At first I thought Jenny Lewis, since he has been working w/ her but based on the "similar origins" hint-maybe he hooked up w/ someone like Miley???

Kate said...

That was exactly my guess--Mandy Moore/Miley Cyrus.

Exhibit A:

https://twitter.com/mileycyrus/status/387338007105503233

Kristin Wigs said...

I thought Gomez/Bieber/Grande

Really Totally said...

I’m quite liking the Mandy Moore+Ryan Adams guess! A quick wikipedia scan does confirm that she started as a successful bubblegum pop teen act, then did acting, and has since tried fairly unsuccessfully to make more mature music. There hasn’t been any gossip about them, so it does initially seem to be a “no drama relationship”.

Moreover, as I just googled them I saw a review on Daily Beast of Adams’ album - released a few weeks’ ago, making him pretty current - titled "‘Ryan Adams’ Is No Domestic Bliss Album”. Going on to say "Filled with songs about desire, absence, and restlessness”. And the review reveals he’s done autobiographical tracks before. Could confirm that there's something brewing there! Also, Moore sings on the album, so Adams is indeed her “her playing partner”.

Not sure who the other girl is. Could well be Miley Cyrus, she certainly has a similar teen-popper origin and sound, which she has evolved, and is way more famous now than Moore. Interestingly, the new Adams album apparently also has this: "“My Wrecking Ball” finds the singer sleepless and adrift, yearning for someone who’s not around, or at least not around him anymore.” Could Adams be that blatant about a Miley affair??

What does this mean, though: "Despite her many changes, contrived or organic, this was probably not the intended image.”? Does that even refer to 1st or 2nd girl?

Selena/Bieber doesn’t sound as convincing - she has not had "series of disappointments”, and they hardly have "a solid commitment, no drama".

Katie said...

Oh no! I really hope that it's not Mandy Moore and Ryan Adams, I absolutely love them both and am infatuated with Ryan Adams's music (which is what I'm hoping that Miley's tweet referred to, the album is amazing). I'm biassed but I went to a show of his last year and even though he never outright said "Mandy", he talked about his wife frequently and affectionately during the stage banter.

My first thought was actually Carrie Underwood/Mark Fisher/Taylor Swift. Carrie Underwood started off hot coming out of American Idol as a country singer and has recently dabbled in acting gigs on HIMYM and a movie I've never heard of called Soul Surfer. And of course, the ill-fated role as Maria Von Trapp in the live Sound of Music. Mike Fisher is her "playing" partner, referring to his profession as a NHL player. Taylor Swift originated as a country music star that has morphed herself into a preppy pop princess that has been known for being the woman dumped in relationships. She's trying to move past that stigma with her new album, but one tag she definitely wouldn't want is that of a homewrecker.

The only thing that doesn't quite fit? Taylor didn't come out of a singing competition. However, a very similar artist to Carrie Underwood that has become (arguably) more popular and started off on the singing competition Nashville Star is... Miranda Lambert (duhn duhn DUHN!)

Unknown said...

I really want this to be Jessica Simpson, because I refuse to live in a world where Ryan Adams cheated on Mandy Moore with Miley Cyrus!

Also, Lainey posted an out-of-nowhere item about JS today. It was an outfit post, but it was on her main blog (not the life and style section or whatever it's called). I'm choosing to take that as a hint. ;)

The "playing partner" could reference her ex-football playing husband? And she did branch out into acting (Dukes of Hazard), but her career didn't really go anywhere.

I know I'm grasping at straws, I just really don't want this to be RA/MM!

LC said...

Throwing another name out there - Hilary Duff. Separated from ex-NHL hubby (Mike Comrie is his name) earlier this year (and we know Lainey is a NHL/hockey fan so maybe this spurred her to write about it). She started in music for the Disney Channel and acted in some direct to DVD movies but recently released a new single which hasn't gotten much buzz. They are pretty low profile and "not much drama".

Don't know who the other girl could be - but Miley is a good guess.

blurry vice said...

I'm not sure who the couple is, but I was picturing Taylor Swift as the 2nd girl. Something about the way she described her.

C said...

I think the Mandy/Ryan guess is GENIUS. I am so impressed with how y'all come up with this stuff - I have been thinking about this one all afternoon and those two never even crossed my mind.

I think the biggest giveaway is the "similar early sound and origin" part. Mandy and Miley's early music was very similar - very innocent and poppy. And let's remember that they both had early film roles in Nicholas Sparks' movies. Honestly, they even kind of looked alike back when Miley had long, dark hair.

And I think the part about this not being an image Miley intended makes sense. Regardless of her many antics, I think she actually does come across as a good person, and I would think she wouldn't want to be seen as a man-stealer, given the whole January Jones/Liam Hemsworth situation that led to their breakup. And she very publicly called her dad out for cheating on her mom when they split up (Lainey covered this).

This is a good one! Sad, though ... Mandy seems like a sweet and talented girl.

C said...

Also, duh - Miley's Nicholas Sparks movie was The Last Song. Lainey's term "song girl" kept sticking out to me ... weird way to describe a singer/musician and not something I've seen her say before, so it's obviously deliberate.

Jen said...

Also, Lainey refers to the girl as "organic or contrived". If you search her archives, she only uses the word contrived to refer to Mandy Moore, and she's done so many times. Definitely a hint! I initially thought Taylor as well but the "similar origin" definitely points to Miley and their roles in Nicholas Sparks movies.

MD1979 said...

I agree this is probably Mandy / Ryan / Miley - but bc it makes me too sad to think that Ryan is just another typical asshole and Mandy seems so normal and nice - I'm just going to point out that the blind riddle doesn't actually refer to the couple being married, as Ryan and Mandy are. So the blind COULD be about someone else. It says "steady relationship" "solid commitment" "partner". Usually in Lainey's blinds, she's pretty specific about the relationship status. If it was about a married couple, she is usually specific about that... I'm gonna hope it's not Mandy and Ryan for that reason.

Rose Gonzales said...

Jason Derulo and Jordin Sparks
They recently split.

Pam said...

Jennifer Hudson? Started out promising (Oscar), hasn't done much past few yrs, seemingly stable relationship, transformation = weight loss, similar origin could be someone from American Idol.

Kakasparks said...

Is the title a double entendre? Ostensibly it means "love triangle," but it could also mean the musical instrument, triangle. Is the triangle used in one genre or music more than others?

Kakasparks said...

Hate to harp on the title, Guys, but could "Notes on a love triangle" be a play on "Teardrops on my guitar"?

Really Totally said...

I’ve been wiki-surfing, and sorry, Mandy Moore fans, but I’m not yet buying the suggested alternatives :)

For Carrie Underwood, “...over the last few years, it’s been a series of disappointments” - that's hardly true, she’s just releasing a Greatest Hits album, is expecting a child, and her latest album in 2012 went double platinum.

I don't think Jennifer Hudson or Jordin Sparks are doing too shabbily either, they've been working steadily, and have won awards as recently as this year.

As for Jessica Simpson, “personally though, she seemed to have it together. A steady relationship, a solid commitment, no drama… Or maybe it’s because we weren’t paying attention.” - that doesn’t seem to fit at all, as Lainey has indeed paid attention to their relationship, mainly to refer to the hubby consistently as a freeloader.

And Hilary Duff, "She started out as a song girl, then acted,” - Duff started as an actor on Lizzie Maguire, then started the music thing.

Back to defending the Moore/Adams case: like Kakasparks, I also noticed the headline, and thought it does sound like an intentional reference to something. Maybe a song, but after C caught the Nicholas Sparks connection (good one!) of Mandy and Miley both starring in a Sparks’ film, I’m thinking the headline does sound just like a headline of one his books, right? I googled Sparks + books (boy, do his books all look the same) - The Notebook, Message in a Bottle, Nights in Rodanthe, etc - Notes on a Love Triangle would go here very well, I think?

However, the 2nd girl could also be someone else than Miley, she does seem an off-kilter choice for him, although the clues do fit. I could picture him with Taylor Swift more easily, as she’s classier and a genuine songwriting talent. But Swift has evolved from country to pop, when Moore went from pop to some more mature music (haven’t heard it), so the "similar early sound and origin” does not really fit. Nor does "her many changes”, the one bigger change for Swift is the music, nothing compared to e.g. Miley.

duffgrl said...

Still like my original guess (Mandy Moore) but Hilary Duff could fit too. I really don't think it is Sparks/Hudson- Lainey hasn't written much about Hudson and does not write about Sparks. Probably not Simpson, she just got married. Very doubtful it is Underwood as she is pregnant and has not had a "series of disappointments"…
I can't see RA w/ Miley either but who knows. Then again, Jenny Lewis could fit too(?). She was a child actor & singer. But the hints really point to Miley.

Dazlondon said...

Mandy Moore
Ryan Adams
Laura Marling

duffgrl said...

Can't see the 2nd girl being Laura Marling because hints don't point to her…this would point more to Taylor Swift or Miley…blurry mentioned Taylor Swift for 2nd girl & I'm leaning that way now too.
Starting to lean towards the Hilary Duff/Mike Comrie guess too("playing partner") also- "trying hard to work it out"…I thought they were divorced but they are actually separated and it has been publicized that she wants it to work out so…sounds more like these 2 than Moore/Adams.

Sshh said...

I can`t see this being Duff and Comrie since Lainey had at least one other blind about them early on where she stated that he was already cheating very early on in their marriage and the writing was on the wall or something like that. And Lainey hinted that their separation was due to his cheating. So Lainey has never thought that Duff has it together personally.

Also, I can't see Comrie hooking up with a much more successful song girl - he's an ex-athlete .. I doubt a much more successful song girl would want to have anything to do with him. The men who could get successful song girls are successful song guys .. usually.

Unknown said...

I don't think it's Duff because of this clue "A steady relationship, a solid commitment, no drama…" Lainey had at least one blind and several major hints that Comrie was cheating on Duff during their marriage going back awhile. So they hadn't been steady or solid for some time. And Moore has a history of LTRs with douchebags- Roddick, Braff, Valderrama. So it wouldn't be surprising if Adams were a stealth asshole. I creeped on Moore's & Adams' respective Twitters too - FWIW, Moore has tons of shout outs to her husband & RTs compliments about him. Adams RTs compliments about himself too, haha. Nothing about wifey.

Catherine Loughrey said...

New blind up-

My guess would be Charlize and Sean Penn. She seems to have a few blinds about them, so I would guess she has a source.

- Obvious why he's into her - that's pretty clear.

- Not obvious why she's into him - again, pretty clear, and a point Lainey has definitely fixated on.

- "Monster cock" being disrespectful, I'm thinking this is a reference to her role in Monster. Disrespectful because it was based on a true story.

Dana said...

For the new blind, I was thinking Jennifer Lawrence/Chris Martin. Obviously he's into her because she's the hottest young movie star around right now. But, why is she into him? And the disrespectful would be because of the recent uncoupling.

Unknown said...

She does have a post about Goopy up today, so that might be a clue that it's about JLaw/Chris Martin (who the Daily Mail, not generally funny at all, hilariously called "Mr Soppy" in an article speculating why hot women would be attracted to him).

The recent uncoupling could be the disrespectful thing, as could the fact that there are kiddos involved? (think of the children!) Not sure Lainey would be concerned about that though.

nicole wilson said...

Lainey posted a comment about G's birthday party with Kate Hudson and Matt Bellamy being 'an intact actress/rocker couple'. Does that mean anything? My first post here!

MD1979 said...

I think the reference to Kate Hudson and Matt Bellamy was to eliminate them as the couple in this blind item.

Unfortunately I agree it must be Mandy / Ryan here... not convinced yet that it's Miley as the other woman, but signs point strongly to her. Somehow I don't think it's Laura Marling. I don't think she can be described as "much more successful" and she definitely does not have a similar early sound and origin to Mandy.

I don't think it's Jennifer Hudson as her life has had loads and loads of drama. Her brother in law murdered her mom, brother and nephew in 2008. And her partner is David Otunga, a professional wrestler/ lawyer / actor - not really the type I see hooking up with starlets. Also, her career didn't just "start off promisingly" - she has a Grammy AND an Oscar AND is a best selling author. I don't think that's "promising" I think that's hitting it out of the park successful! She has also worked very steadily since she hit the scene.

nicole wilson said...

Thank you. Still learning the linguistic clues. Plus I just really don't want it to be Mandy/Ryan.

Dazlondon said...

I suggested Laura Marling because she has a similar sound to Ryan Adams. They have worked together and she has spent the last year living in LA.

Memime said...

I think there was a hint today on an article about Taylor Swift:

"But if dating isn’t what she’s into, is it more of a hit it one time and quit it thing?"

Moore/Adams/Swift?

MD1979 said...

@Dazlondon - I read the "similar sound and origin" to refer to the two women, but I see it could also mean the cheater and the other woman have an early similar sound, as you mentioned.

Really Totally said...

I think someone famous like Miley could still have a hook-up with someone non-famous like Mike Comrie; maybe out of boredom or being high or wanting to prove being an adult by stealing someone else’s man. But - the blind specifies "She started out as a song girl, then acted”, and Hilary Duff started as an actor, then sung.

So I will still bang on about Moore-Adams here. But who could be the 2nd woman? I just don’t know if Jenny Lewis or Laura Marling are really on Lainey’s radar, and could be considered "much more successful” than Mandy Moore. I hadn’t heard of either before this myself (not that it proves anything).

Well spotted Memime, about Taylor Swift and possible one night stands - that would fit here! Not really “the intended image” for her for sure.

In the same piece, Lainey also writes: "That country was just a gateway to pop(...)It all has to be about evolution of art”. Keyword “evolution”, as in the blind’s "sound and origin, though that’s evolving now.” Not sure if Taylor has gone through “many changes”, but I guess that could be debatable.

Dazlondon had a good point - which opens up new possibilities - about "similar early sound and origin” possibly referring to him, not her like I’ve assumed. For instance, Ryan Adams started with alt-country, similar to Taylor Swift starting with country.

So I could be sold on Taylor Swift, feels like a better fit than Miley Cyrus!

Heather Todd said...

What about Avril Lavigne and Chad Kroeger? She's done voice acting... he is her playing partner as they have recorded together.

Unknown said...

Did Avril & Chad ever have the appearance of being settled and committed though? Most pegged their whirlwind romance and marriage as messy from the start and not likely to last.

Sugar said...

In light of the recent Jordin Sparks/Jason DeRulo breakup, I have to throw that out there...although I couldn't be less interested in them.

Kakasparks said...

Career Prospectus for Mandy Moore posted by Sarah today.

Summer said...

Lainey referred to that "Taylor Swift blind riddle" today in the Faculty of Celebrity studies wrap up...

This is the only blind riddle that she's posted lately that could point to Taylor Swift.

I was originally convinced that the first song girl was Mandy Moore... but if Taylor is the hookup, I'm less convinced. Were their sounds all that similar in the beginning? Mandy was straight up bubblegum "Candy" pop while Swifty played at country. Unless the riddle's referring to Ryan Adams' alt-country roots.

Or maybe I just hope it's not about Mandy and Ryan.

Whitney said...

I hate to admit it...but I think the Mandy Moore/T Swift angle is probably correct. The career prospectus for Mandy fits this to a tee, and Lainey made that super random reference to a Swifty blind in her vitamin water post today. This was the only one I could think of that might involve her. Thoughts?

Whitney said...

Summer--we totally posted at the same time! Great point on the "early sound" though. Does Mandy even play guitar?

Bootsie said...

Taylor Swift and Ryan Adams were on The Tonight Show in August.

Summer said...

Whitney -- Mandy does, indeed, play guitar. I saw her perform in 2007 and she played on a couple of songs, but qualified to the crowd that she was still learning how. She definitely didn't play when she was just starting out, though!

Summer said...

Follow up, follow up note.

https://twitter.com/TheRyanAdams/status/528822277320605696

Lauren Tess said...

I posted this above too but think it's a hint for this:
http://www.laineygossip.com/Miranda-Lambert-wins-big-at-CMA-Awards-2014/31766?celebrityId=21393

Unknown said...

That *is* interesting that RA shouted out Taylor, esp since everything I've read about him points to him being an pretentious, insufferable twat who considers himself punk - doesn't seem like a dude who'd be into Taylor's overprocessed pop schmaltz.

They do have another sorta connection - a musician friend (Butch something) who has toured with RA in the past has done production work for TS (and a few other top female pop acts).

Brooke Mckinney said...

Yeah sadly sounds like Mandy/Ryan. What I don't get is why she isn't acting or singing anymore. She was pretty good and then just disappeared. Okay who are other choices in case it's not her? As far as singers that turned to acting and now have a stalled career I can think of a few but not sure of their relationship status. There's Leann Rymes, Katherine McPhee, Hillary Duff, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez, and I'm sure a lot more. I always thought MM was super sweet girl next door type but then she dated Wilmer Valderama so idk..

blurry vice said...

Going with Mandy Moore, ryan Adams, and Tswift for top suspects at this point

blurry vice said...

Some people are posting that this might be Blake Shelton, Miranda Lambert, and Taylor Swift??? Lainey had a post about Miranda at the CMAs with a couple hints. Could be...

Ash said...

Except that...aren't people always speculating that Miranda and Blake have issues? And Miranda seems pretty successful. I think Ryan/Mandy/Taylor are a better fit

la petite bitch said...

They just announced Mandy Moore and Ryam Adams are filing for divorce sooo...

Unknown said...

Ahh, solved. MM is one of the few celebs that people seem to like. Perhaps that's because she's never gotten to be that so successful that she gets scrutinized.

Personally, I am indifferent to her, but it's interesting to me that she seems so appealing (to others) & yet has never found much success as an adult. I would think there'd be a spot for her on some MOR tv vehicle. Like, I could see her doing something like a young Murder She Wrote, haha! Something non-threatening & asexual, like her image. I think she's difficult to pair up romantically since she's a big, tall girl & so many actors are little pipsqueaks.

Anyway, that's the most I've ever thought about MM. No doubt she will find another douchebag to date (Wilmer, Andy Roddick, Zack Barf, Ryan Adams). Maybe John Mayer.

Sarah said...

Yes, and Lainey revealed on her blog today that one of her blind items is solved after the divorce filings this weekend.
"Between the PGA Awards, the SAG Awards, Sundance, Paris Fashion Week, and blind riddle subjects filing for divorce, it was a busy weekend in entertainment."

And then in the Moore-Adams divorce post she wrote:

"Mandy Moore and Ryan Adams confirmed their split this weekend. ...

No reason has been offered so far. But, um, you know. You’re not blind. Apart from that though, was it a surprise?"

So, solved.

reallytotally said...

Sarah basically posted what I was going to. So it's confirmed: Lainey wrote this blind about Moore&Adams.

HOWEVER, the other girl in the blind? Are we thinking Taylor Swift?

Unknown said...

Has to be Swifty. There really aren't many teen pop stars who went on to be really successful - Britney and Taylor. And Brit would hardly be described as 'evolving.'

Not sure I totally buy it though. I buy that Ryan would cheat, but Lainey seems to have an agenda with Taylor Swift - like building her into a major player rather than the super-beard that she has been in the past. When Lainey stops writing about Swift's obvious PR relationships (like the laughable one with Harry Styles) as if they were real, I'll start believing she might not just be down low shilling for TS's "evolving" image.

Bad Lover said...

Other song girl: Jenny Lewis. Actress turned singer/songwriter. He produced her album last year and they at touring together.

duffgrl said...

Bad lover: look at 1st guess…that is who I guessed. But more probable is Laura Marling…I think that is more probable.

duffgrl said...

Jenny Lewis, or Laura marling.

Whitney said...

Confirmed to be Swifty: "Hint hint clue clue."

http://www.laineygossip.com/Smutty-Tingles-for-August-7--2015/40294

JJ said...

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Laura said...

Did Lainey just confirm this in Friday's open?
http://www.laineygossip.com/Intro-for-October-2--2015/40806

Quote: "Taylor Swift is in Toronto tonight for the first of two shows. Ryan Adams is in town too so that’s a possibility, considering he remade her entire album and, um, well, some other things."

Summer said...

"Have you watched Ryan Adams interviewing Taylor Swift about both their 1989s? Oh reeeeally? I say that with my eyes closed, like I’m blind." - Lainey in today's opening post. I think we can stop speculating on this one, y'all.

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